Monday, May 21, 2007


Caustic Logic/The Frustrating Fraud
Last Updated 6/25/07

Skeptics often ask me about the sources of my photo evidence; Why are there no photos or videos of the plane? Why so few pictures of the impact or the building damage? Why so few of THOSE don't catch the impact hole before the section collapsed? Why so few close-ups in general? Why no photos of plane parts, inside or outside the Pentagon? There are many questions, and as many answers, which I'll tackle one section at a time.

I have seen no good reason to suspect fakery in any of these pieces of evidence, and certainly have no problem passing on where I got the photos and who has vouched for their validity. So here is a partial working list of some of the shots I've used, at full size, with links and info. I will catalog all the relevant shots sooner or later, these are just the first.

Pre-Collapse Damage Photos: September 11, 9:37-9:57 am

(right click, open in new window for full size view.)
Ninteen minutes after the 9:37:45 crash of the Boeing 757, the impacted segment collapsed. Thus after 9:57, the area was effectively closed off to most photographers, who were pushed back to a distance as authorities took control of what they felt was a dangerous scene. This is an important clue to why the earliest photos taken, from impact to collapse, are in fact the best evidence of a 757 impact. As we are pushed farther from the actual evidence, the room for mystery grows. Step one in the propogation of the Fraud.

Daryl Donley. Downed lamp post.Taken just about 9:38 am. This photo clearly shows the initial explosion of the impact. The often-argued case that this flash is indicative of explosives instead of/in addition to jet fuel, is something I haven't studied and I have no specific opinion on yet. Source: Library of Congress Prints and Photohraphs Division. (slightly brightened)

Daryl Donley. Eclipsed Sun. One of the less seen photos of the attack, detailing the "intact columns" to the right (south) of main impact, likely entry point for the right engine and wing root. Source: Library of Congress Prints and Photohraphs Division. (slightly brightened)

Cpl. Jason Ingersoll, USMC. Taken before 9:57 am. Source: US Department of Defense.

Cpl. Jason Ingersoll, USMC. Source:

Cpl. Jason Ingersoll, USMC. Source: Defend

Cpl. Jason Ingersoll, USMC. Source: Around. Attributed to him via its similarity to the above shot. I'm pretty sure it's yet another Ingersol classic. We are indebted greatly to this man. For goood or ill. This is the one most widely used to argue for an intact column at line 14 on the second floor.

Will Morris. Associated Press. Source: Washington Post. Flaming car, remmoved wall and columns on first floor, north side on the impact zone. Note on second floor, facade removed but windows intact, and then a section of wall completely gone. This is about the center of the impact area.

Debris Photos outside the building
Mark Faram, senior writer with Navy Times newspaper. Taken "within fifteen minutes of the explosion," apparently just before 9:57. Source: Geoff Metcalf.

Debris inside (or from inside) the building: September 11-14

Many of the photos below are from a 2002 article by Sarah Roberts posted at
As she explained her reasoning, "since most of the plane reportedly entered the building, we should also look for images of debris inside the building." Among the reasons for a dearth of such images: "Most other photos remain in the private hands of investigators, rescue workers, and others who were inside the building. Many images are officially classified." But where the veil of secrecy and the diffusion of evidence were overcome, we see again strong evidence of a Boeing 757 having hit the building.

Anonymous. Apparent landing gear strut, apparently found in Ring C near the punch-out hole. Source: Sarah Roberts.

Anonymous. A large sheet of burned metal, possibly fuselage, against a bowed column. Source: Sarah Roberts.

Jocelyn Augustino, FEMA photographer. Cropped from an original huge photo famous for the apparent engine rotor on the left. The piles of debris at both left and right are of additional possible interest.

Virginia Task Force 1 (VATF-1) photo. Apparent engine part, possibly combustion chamber housing. The scale is not entirely clear, and opinions still seem ti differ as to whether it's from the RB-211 engines from a 757. Source: Sarah Roberts.

Virginia Task Force 1 (VATF-1) photo. A round rim (bottom right): another engine part? Source: Sarah Roberts.

1 comment:

Caustic Logic said...

Stevenwarran tried to post an article her he just wrote based on some photo anlysis.

"Oh dear God, Dick Eastman was right

they were blasting out the exit hallways to prevent the escape of our own people." And on for a bit. Here's the link if people want to read it. It's interesting but I think pretty wrong. I didn't read it carefully but nice morbid descriptions like "One of the radial tunnels extends out underground to a subterranean structure in the lawn, called on the plan, the heliport vault, which is an element visible in some exterior shots as metal-lidded series of coffin shaped structures buried within a mounded area. In some shots we see what are likely to be their metal lids flung aside. In some of the high-resolution Ingersall shots, we even see the scattered casings of used high-explosive shells that may have been ejected from these housings--missile self-defense being the strategy and missile self-offense, the tactic."

??? This is usually called the vent/exhaust structure - the tunnel is for air, the "coffin shape" is coincidental, lids or something do seem to be open, but I'm pretty sure it's not a missile battery.

Anybody want to read it themselves:

Hey Steve! You're on my Fraud list BTW (under Warran).